16:47:48 ACAMH to Everyone: Hello early birds! Hope you are looking forward to the session and can see the trailer previews
16:49:17 ursula to Everyone:👍
16:50:07 ACAMH to Everyone: Hooray! You can use the chat to network, let us know where you are from and what you do. Plus do use twitter to widen the conversation follow @acamh and use #CAMHScampfire
16:53:21 Andre Tomlin to Everyone: Hello all, Thanks for joining us around the CAMHS campfire to talk about parenting practices and bullying. A very warm welcome to you wherever you are in the world. I'm André from the Mental Elf. I'm chairing the discussion today. Do say hello here in the chat and tell us who you are and where you are from.
16:54:17 Anna to Hosts and panelists: Hello from chilly Liverpool
16:55:21 Andre Tomlin to Everyone: Hi Anna, Thanks for joining us. Chilly here in Bristol too!
16:55:48 Andre Tomlin to Everyone: Do select “Everyone” when you post in the chat so everyone can see your message 😊
16:56:22 Naomi to Everyone: Hi everyone! I'm Naomi and I'm an MSc student at the Uni of York in the UK. Really looking forward to today's session :) Hope everyone is well.
16:56:56 Andre Tomlin to Everyone: Hi Naomi 👋
16:59:21 Andre Tomlin to Everyone: Hello all, Thanks for joining us around the CAMHS campfire to talk about parenting practices and bullying. A very warm welcome to you wherever you are in the world. I'm André from the Mental Elf. I'm chairing the discussion today. Do say hello here in the chat and tell us who you are and where you are from.
16:59:29 Andre Tomlin to Everyone: Everything (video, papers, useful resources) will be shared on the event page https://www.acamh.org/event/catc-bullying/
16:59:47 Andre Tomlin to Everyone: If you are on Twitter, please post your thoughts and comments to #CAMHScampfire as we go along https://twitter.com/search?q=%23CAMHScampfire&src=hashtag_click&f=live
16:59:51 Majella to Everyone: THANK YOU
17:00:32 Andre Tomlin to Everyone: We are going to talk about bullying and parenting practices today, and the author of the paper is with us in the webinar. Dr. Ana Pascual-Sanchez - How are parenting practices associated with bullying in adolescents? A cross-sectional study https://doi.org/10.1111/camh.12475
17:00:39 Sean to Everyone: My name is Sean and I’m from the USA
17:00:52 Shannon to Everyone: Greatings!  Shannon, school based clinician, provisional professional counselor in Wyoming, USA.
17:01:11 Andre Tomlin to Everyone: Hi Sean,/Shannon Thanks for joining us! Great to have friends joining from the USA
17:01:16 Andre Tomlin to Everyone: Douglas has written a blog about this paper, so you can get a good overview by reading that: https://elfi.sh/3cBYsYO  #CAMHScampfire
17:01:19 Douglas Badenoch to Everyone: Welcome everyone.  I’m Douglas, from Edinburgh, @DBadenoch
17:01:31 Andre Tomlin to Everyone: If you have any questions, please post them here in the chat and we will do our best to answer as many as we can.
17:02:39 Julia to Everyone: Hi everyone I am Julia and from Merseyside
17:02:54 Octavio to Everyone: Good day everyone. I am Octavio a Licensed Clinical Social Worker from California USA.
17:03:12 Zahrah to Everyone: hi! I'm Zahrah from London
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17:03:25 Emma to Hosts and panelists: Hi I’m Emma from Manchester
17:03:30 Jodie to Everyone: Hi, I'm Jodie I'm from Bradford
17:03:35 Ewan to Everyone: Hi, my name's Ewan, I'm a Student Paediatric Nurse in Devon, UK.
17:03:41 Daniela to Hosts and panelists: Hello, I am Daniela. Educational Psychologist in UK
17:03:41 Allan to Everyone: Hello.  I'm Allan from Fort William in Scotland.
17:03:42 Sarah to Everyone: Hi all I'm Sarah from Hillingdon
17:03:43 Gifty to Hosts and panelists: I’m Gifty Nurse case manager Manchester
17:03:44 Deirdre to Everyone: Hi Dee from Limerick Ireland
17:03:44 Sorcha to Everyone: Im Sorcha, a candidate ANP in ADHD/ CAMHS in Ireland
17:03:58 Penelope to Hosts and panelists: Greetings from Warwickshire psychotherapist/ counsellor, multi addictions and psychosexual therapist and clinical supervisor trainer etc
17:04:06 Sam to Hosts and panelists: Hi all, I am a family therapist working in children’s mental health services in Norfolk.
17:04:10 Janet to Everyone: Hello! I'm Janet Lydecker from New Haven, CT, US -- I have an intervention (RCT) for bullying that I am currently delivering.
17:04:10 Beverley to Everyone: Hi all, I'm Bev and I work in children's social care in Devon
17:04:14 ACAMH to Everyone: great to see lots of ACAMH members here today
17:04:16 Lindsay to Everyone: Hi, I am Lindsay from Thurso, Scotland, I am a Young Peoples Advocate
17:04:19 Emma to Everyone: Hi, I'm Emma working in CAMHS in Leeds
17:04:23 Lisa to Everyone: Evening all I'm Lisa from the chilly South Wale
17:04:45 Sholly to Everyone: Hi, I'm Sholly, CAMHS Practitioner in London
17:04:49 Lisa to Everyone: I'm a training officer from childrens services
17:04:51 Julia to Everyone: I am a therapeutic social worker and work with lots of families with neurodiversity
17:04:55 Petra to Everyone: Hi, I'm Petra in Manchester.
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17:05:05 Kelly to  Everyone: Hi,Im Kelly I work as a nurse in childrens disability network teams in cork
17:05:06 Tatjana to Everyone: Hi, my name is Tatjana. I run a private psychotherapy practice in Ireland.. primarily working with adolescents and their parents..
17:05:20 Qandeel to Everyone: I am Qandeel, Speciality Doctor in ADHD 
17:05:30 Siobhan to Everyone: Hi everyone, Siobhan here from Dublin, I'm a home , school and community liaison coordinator in a junior primary school
17:08:33 Emily to Hosts and panelists: I’m unable to hear this!! Help please!
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17:10:31 Louise to Hosts and panelists: Hello!! What a great way to kick off this cold evening. I love the idea. Thank you
17:11:54 Ewan to Everyone: It's interesting that we refer to the 'victims' of bullying, but try to avoid people labelling themselves as a 'victim'.  I think there needs to be an accepted use of language concerning this.
17:12:04 ursula to Everyone: hi all I am Ursula and work on a CAMHS team in Dublin
17:16:22 ACAMH to Everyone: Do please put your questions here or on the Q&A, we'll try an incorporate them into the discussion
17:16:55 Andre Tomlin to Everyone: https://www.nationalelfservice.net/populations-and-settings/schools/bullying-in-childhood-and-adolescence/
17:17:00 philip to Everyone: Arif said that bullying “does not have to be repetitive”. In my study of characteristics of bullying, repeated behaviour is mentioned as an important one, as opposed to a once off event. Could Arif extend on examples of cases where bullying is still involved even when though it is not repeated hurtful behaviour.
17:19:18 Alex to Everyone: What were the secondary school interventions recommended?
17:20:00 Ewan to Everyone: Phil, It's possible that this is a consequence of the way bullying is defined in the UK in schools, it is only really considered bullying if there are repeated events IMO although I appreciate the point Arif makes.
17:20:10 Louise to Hosts and panelists: Do we have examples of successful attempts to connect parenting practices and school interventions?  Or do they work in silo?
17:20:26 Andre Tomlin  to  Everyone: Here’s Ana’s paper: How are parenting practices associated with bullying in adolescents? A cross-sectional study https://doi.org/10.1111/camh.12475
17:20:27 Lucy Bowes to Everyone: Link to paper of secondary school-based intervention that was effective at reducing prevalence of bullying: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(18)31782-3/fulltext
17:21:05 Andre Tomlin to Everyone: Thanks Lucy
17:21:11 Andre Tomlin to Everyone: Douglas has written a blog about this paper, so you can get a good overview by reading that: https://elfi.sh/3cBYsYO
17:21:22 Ioana to Hosts and panelists: How can i teach or explain my child to respond or react to a bulling? How can she ignore  if a collegue tell her something randomly but it’s affectig her. Thanks!
17:25:49 Lucy Bowes to Everyone: I think the question of definitions of bullying perhaps not reflecting lived experience is really important. I loved this qualitative research paper by Farah Jamal that discusses how fluid the roles of bully and victim can be, at least in teenage girls: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/1467-9566.12231
17:26:34 Julia to Everyone: can we access the questionnaires with the resources you mentioned earlier>
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17:27:50 Julia to Everyone: its interesting neurodiversity has not come up
17:27:58 SUSHILKUMAR to Everyone: What was the definition of "positive parenting"?
17:29:15 Inger to Hosts and panelists: Ho do you account for Neurodivergent children ( unidentified) or identified - parents and ND kids - parenting is very different and not less in many cases - especially PDA. A “bulky” may well be a child who needs a diagnosis and support
17:29:17 SUSHILKUMAR to Everyone: Traditional bullying is more prevalent
17:30:40 Inger to Hosts and panelists: What % were Autistic/ ADHD( in all groups)
17:30:52 SUSHILKUMAR to Everyone: https://www.euronews.com/2021/11/22/why-is-spain-s-catholic-church-refusing-an-independent-investigation-into-sex-abuse-claims
17:33:15 Anne to Hosts and panelists: Is there follow on research around how to best support. Parents impact in changes to parenting practice
17:33:59 Peter to Hosts and panelists: Clearly there is a significant ommission in assessing child and parenting links to bullying, the relevant research in social anomia and concepts such as school failure/culture, these non measured varaibles may have significant interaction beyond the former variable.
17:34:36 From  Inger to Hosts and panelists: How do you account for Neurodivergent children ( unidentified) or Identified  -including ND parents and both perpetrator and victim. Parenting of PDA children looks ver different. Also a child with RSD ( ADHD) will show you the root.
17:35:02 Inger to Hosts and panelists: Seems like a very very obvious root
17:35:41 Julia to Everyone: its a shame and so under researched
17:35:45 Alma to Hosts and panelists: I'm curious about current prevalence of gender identities and group contagion. A real and recent trend in my work, where previously homosexual-identifying females are switching to a trans identity in large numbers, and fantasising about taking new identities to join perceived powerful peers
17:36:20 Penelope to Everyone: Greetings from Warwickshire in UK psychotherapist psychosexual and multi addictions therapist clinical supervisor trainer etc
17:36:20 Inger to Hosts and panelists: Teachers aren’t well trained and wait lists very long so I think there are some big gaps
17:36:47 Rani to Everyone: HI Is the Alabama Parenting scale a clinical tool that can it be used in clinic with children with all types of neurodevelopmental and/ or mental health problems?
17:37:17 Inger to Hosts and panelists: Did you talk to parents of bullied children before setting up the study - happy to help you with a pool of SEN parents to explore Bullying in ND kids
17:38:10 Janet to Everyone: there is a potential confound -- the "reasons" why kids are bullied is likely intersectional, so race/ethnicity/gender might reflect vulnerability to becoming a bullying victim at the demographic rather than individual level
17:40:27 Inger to Hosts and panelists: https://www.spectrumgaming.net
17:41:10 Ewan to Everyone: Thankyou Janet, I found your comment very useful to frame how I think of this issue.
17:41:28 Rani to Everyone: Lucy what is that paper with a 10 year sustained positive impact on bullying
17:42:02 Becky to  Everyone: Did the study look at parents' practices for supervising their internet/technology use?
17:42:46 Lucy Bowes to Everyone: Ten year impacts of a parenting intervention on bullying (but not victimization sadly): https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0277953621004469?casa_token=hemUwUX3DJcAAAAA:DPHgVYR39Nfnnxm74dOWrvTAuLc36PGkasJAyv8ZFOJtVQfT6S8uqagMf_wtgihqdzPtI0eL
17:43:18 Rani to Everyone: Thank you
17:43:28 Lucy Bowes to Everyone: Title: Early childhood parenting and adolescent bullying behavior: Evidence from a randomized intervention at ten-year follow-up: Kim, J. H., Hahlweg, K., & Schulz, W. (2021). Early childhood parenting and adolescent bullying behavior: evidence from a randomized intervention at ten-year follow-up. Social Science & Medicine, 114114.
17:43:32 Inger to Hosts and panelists: Behaviours will look different in ND parenting and kids
17:44:26 Inger to Hosts and panelists: That wont work with autistic kids
17:47:02 Inger to Hosts and panelists: Children who struggle to transition may not be able to quit easily - I think some input from autistic researchers could support @aucademy may have some helpful input. Being involved in your Childs interests is helpful but still its about children recognising boundaries being busted and poor communication.
17:48:11 Anne to Hosts and panelists: Is there no practical follow on guidelines as the current impact in schools is significant currently and schools are asking for workshops to suppport parents manage their child MH and bullying
17:49:54 Sholly to Everyone: Any thoughts on the idea that traditional parenting and behaviourist (including evidence based) perspectives/policies in educational setting are in a sense themselves a form of bullying. I feel this is a wider society issue to be adressed in terms of 'western tsyle' parenting.
17:49:57 Rani to Everyone: Hi What is the child rated bullying scale?
17:51:15 Inger to Hosts and panelists: And Trans high ND prevelance
17:51:27 Elisavet Palaiologou to Everyone: Rani, students completed the Olweus Bully/Victim Questionnaire, adapted for cyberbullying
17:52:24 Rani Samuel to Everyone: Thank you
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17:55:14 Julia to Everyone: I am certainly not finding that in the schools where I am working.  Its cyber bullying which continues in school
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17:58:45 Ewan to Everyone: Julie, I agree, cyber bullying is much more concealed and goes under the radar in my experience, after teaching in secondary school for 14 years.  It's incidence is high.
17:58:57 Marion Everyone: Hi in my work I came across two cases of severe cyber bullying which started as bullying at school but extended to the home and to friend's family too which ended in a child with severe anxiety and damaged the family dynamics extensively
17:59:07 Sinziana toEveryone: Did the measure of parenting included items related to parental physical aggression towards children?
17:59:08 Izabela to Everyone: That was a brilliant workshop. Thank you very much!!! Regards, I. Morris
17:59:16 Julia to Everyone: thanks
17:59:21 Ewan to Everyone: Thanks so much.
17:59:22 Sinziana to Everyone: Thank you very much!
17:59:22 Naomi to Everyone: Great discussion :)
17:59:23 Louise Arseneault to  Hosts and panelists: Thank you! Super interesting
17:59:23 Becky to Everyone: Thank you
17:59:24 Daniela to Hosts and panelists: Thank you
17:59:26 Inger to Hosts and panelists: Thank you very interesting
17:59:27 Rachel to Everyone: Thank you
17:59:29 Petra to Everyone: Thank you everyone, that was great! Petra
17:59:30 Athena to Everyone: Thank you!
17:59:31 Caroline to Hosts and panelists: Thank you
17:59:32 Sholly to Everyone: Thank you!
17:59:32 Marion to Everyone: thanks for a very interesting  discussion again
17:59:32 Lindsay to Everyone: Thank you
17:59:33 Elise  to Everyone: Thank you!
17:59:34 Linda to Hosts and panelists: Thank you!
17:59:37 Octavio to Everyone: Thank you everyone. Very insightful.
17:59:39 Rani to Everyone: Thank you so much
17:59:43 Penelope to Everyone: Thanks all
17:59:46 Olga to Everyone: Thank you
17:59:54 Lucy to Everyone: Thank you!
17:59:56 Rani to Everyone: With the alabama scale - how do you score it?
17:59:57 ursula to Everyone: Thank you
18:00:11 patrick to Everyone: Thanks. That was really interesting.
18:00:14 Niamh to Everyone: THANK you great workshop. niamh Cool Sch CAMHS  Trim Ireland
18:00:15 Liliya to Hosts and panelists: really Informative discussion and really good format to discuss research ! much more interesting than the standard talks
18:00:23 Rani to Everyone: Thanks again
18:00:27 Sholly to Everyone: So happy to have found this - looking forward to more.
18:00:29 Kathy to  Hosts and panelists: Thanks very much
18:00:34 Arif to Everyone: Thank you everyone for joining.
18:00:43 Ioana to Hosts and panelists: Thank you!!
18:00:50 Beyza to Everyone: Thank you!
18:00:57 Andre Tomlin  to  Everyone: Big thanks for joining us Arif and Kong!
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18:00:59 Sarah to Everyone: Thank you to everyone that spoke today. Really so good to get all the different perspectives, and especially thank you to Arif and Kong for sharing and for speaking so brilliantly
18:01:20 Linda to Everyone: Thank you, very interesting!
18:01:28 Douglas Badenoch to Everyone: Thanks for all your great questions and comments!
18:01:39 Alma to Everyone: Thank you so much
18:01:47 Lisa to Everyone: Thank you.
18:01:53 Rani to Everyone: Thanks Matt
18:01:54 Inger to Hosts and panelists: 👍🏻
18:01:58 Janet to Everyone: thank you!
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18:02:50 Mariela to Everyone: Thank you!
18:03:43 Rani to Everyone: HI please could you add the Cathy Creswell lecture details
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18:04:57 Rani to Everyone:Thanks
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