We had so many messgaes of thanks and support for the speakers taht we have had to delete these in order that this chat transcript is more coherent. Surnames have been delete to protect privacy of the individual 16:17:25 From Lauren to Everyone: Such a heart breaking story. Thinking of Katrusia and her father. 16:20:26 From Emily to Everyone: What an articulate and thoughtful young woman. And her English is perfect 16:20:48 From Debbie to Everyone: A very brave young lady, so well spoken 16:21:02 From michaela to Everyone: Many thanks to Lukyana for speaking to us , very moving . 16:21:19 From Marianna to Hosts and panelists: Slava Ukraine! Thank you 16:23:24 From Perveen to Hosts and panelists: so raw! I lost my son, and this hurts. so pointless, they are innocents, just as those that have to participate are. 16:24:34 From Petra to Everyone: The strength of each of the victims of this war is incredible... no matter the breakdowns... but how are we ever going to explain what happened to the children impacted by this; no explanation will ever be enough to counteract the destruction they have faced. I genuinely don’t know how these traumatised individuals can be seen in volume as its the longer term effects that this is all going to have on these young peoples minds. Guilt, shame, these parents will likely suffer with complex PTSD - so who will care for this I wonder? 16:25:03 From Iryna to Everyone: Thank you from Ukraine for sharing this... The world has to watch, it's our reality today.. 16:25:19 From Anni to Everyone: utterly moving 16:25:20 From Emily to Everyone: Nobody should have to experience this, particularly children, it is just heartbreaking. The complete lack of emotion showing in the children is so striking. It is just unimaginable to those of us in the UK and elsewhere in the world 16:25:20 From Suzanne to Everyone: 😢 hard to grasp that this is reality in this very moment 16:26:27 From Aysha to Everyone: Petra- agreed, for this was and also the wars going on around the world. Absolutely heartbreaking what is happening around the world right now including in places like Syria & Palestine. Breaks my heart. 16:26:50 From Hannah to Everyone: Correct. We have fostered many asylum seeking children from Afghanistan before and the most important thing for them was familiar food and finding local Afghans, mosques, familiar community etc 16:26:52 From Perveen to Hosts and panelists: I live in Alberta, that has many Ukranian families. It was a Ukranian family that first helped me as an immigrant. 16:27:41 From Marianna to Hosts and panelists: Thank you to all people who support Ukraine in this difficult time. Children need a lot of professional support and education in the war conditions. 16:28:00 From Lauren to Everyone: Cannot imagine the trauma and pain that those in Ukraine, Palestine, Yemen, Afghanistan, Yemen, Congo, Sri Lanka, Cuba. Heartbreaking. 16:28:07 From Megan to Everyone: I struggled to even watch these videos and speakers, I cant begin to think or imagine what Ukraine is experiencing absolutely no one should ever be exposed to such a world 16:28:23 From Perveen to Hosts and panelists: Thank you Dennis for giving these people a voice, and sharing real lives! 16:28:26 From Debbie to Everyone: Am moved by this, early trauma intervention will be so needed for the adults and children of Ukraine following their integration into the UK 16:29:41 From Petra to Everyone: Aysha, you are so right... war isn't just in Ukraine. There are other countries where children and adults alike have faced (continue to face) more hardship then I will ever know. It breaks my heart. It's hard to imagine that as a society we still haven't learned from past. 16:30:10 From Anne to Hosts and panelists: Not only Ukraine is the war and the impact in these childrens life 16:30:30 From Penelope to Everyone: Many thanks Dennis - I am trying to imagine what it is like for you personally too and of course wishing you and your family / people you know, well and wishing you all courage in these historically awful and shocking times. It is wonderful to see all the care so many have shown to others amidst the tragedies 16:31:00 From Ellie to Everyone: I have been working with children from Afghanistan. Their ordeal is exactly the same. 16:34:40 From Petra to Everyone: The video of soldiers on the Polish border playing with some children was wonderful to see; you could see the relief on the mother's face when her children were laughing. 16:35:39 From Lynne to Hosts and panelists: I have found that the increase in harsh parenting is a major issue in all refugee settings in which I work. UNICEF identify this as a major issue in their latest review 16:36:18 From Charlotte to Everyone: In sound therapy we see both children and adults closing down their sound processing which explains the "not listening" 16:36:24 From Lynne to Everyone: This means my goal of improving the understanding of the Cabinet and Mps on the Climate crisis and solutions to it has been achieved. So i am able to start eating again. Could not have done this alone. Thank you 16:38:57 From Julia to Everyone: can we access the parenting book? 16:39:25 From Elaine to Hosts and panelists: Will the booklet be shared along with recording? Thank you! 16:40:42 From Aala to Hosts and panelists: The UNODC link Rachel is referring too with open access resources: https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/prevention/prevention-through-family-skills.html 16:42:58 From Jan to Everyone: https://www.unodc.org/documents/drug-prevention-and-treatment/Strong_families_Brochure.pdf 16:43:15 From ACAMH Marketing Team to Everyone: We also have a number of FREE resources available on our website on the topics of Trauma and Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs). I have attached the link to both our topic guides on Trauma and ACEs. 16:43:49 From ACAMH Marketing Team to Everyone: https://www.acamh.org/topic/aces/ - Adverse Childhood Experiences FREE topic guide 16:44:07 From Wadih to Hosts and panelists: For those interested tools are here (sorry page still in development). https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/prevention/prevention-through-family-skills.html 16:45:08 From ACAMH Marketing Team to Everyone: https://www.acamh.org/topic/trauma/ - FREE Trauma Topic Guide, co-written by Professor Andrea Danese, who will be speaking later in this event 16:47:01 From Debbie to Everyone: I was involved in a smaller scale group which supported re-settled Syrian children and parents in the UK 16:47:31 From Oleh to Everyone: We developed lot of resources (with beautiful images to make them hope-giving) to support parents in supporting children to cope with challenges of war and also to help themselves - in Ukrainian language (we are child and family mental health center in Ukraine). Please share this info with ukrainian families you are working with. They are available for download from: https://k-s.org.ua/coping-war/ 16:47:47 From Wadih to Everyone: For those interested in the tools (page in development). https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/prevention/prevention-through-family-skills.html 16:51:06 From Sveta to Hosts and panelists: Hi I'm a paediatric consultant working with unaccompanied minors and looked after children in Newham. But also I work as a trustee of a charity - The Magpie Project - in Newham which supports women who have no recourse to public funds with children under 5. Most are refugees and asylum seekers and have experienced significant trauma. I would love to chat more with Rachel or colleagues about trying parenting programs with these parents - akin to those Rachel has presented about. Sveta.alladi@nhs.net 16:51:20 From Petra to Everyone: What an 'interesting' statement, outside a church... aren't people wonderful? (I hope the eyeroll was picked up from that.) 16:54:40 From Wadih to Hosts and panelists: School and family are 2 most influential social institutions around the child 16:54:43 From Lynne to Everyone: These resources might also be useful from the CPAOR, global cluster: one on how to help children during bombing: English and Ukrainian the other on how to help children with grief- English, and Ukrainian https://cpaor-audiofiles.com/wp-content/uploads/Rise/English/index.html?fbclid=IwAR3GmdycLqaV5UFl_-pJZYNzkYeb0k6eopvQ5rDT6t3qqF12yiLNd1rT9UI#/ 16:55:29 From ACAMH Marketing If you are interested in hearing more from Professor Mina Fazel following this event, please do check out our FREE podcast with Mina on ‘Child refugee mental health needs’. It is a fantastic listen and truly insightful. https://www.acamh.org/podcasts/associate-professor-mina-fazel-child-refugee-mental-health-needs-in-conversation/ 16:56:41 From Charlotte to Everyone: Schools can use technology to accelerate language acquisition 16:58:45 From Lynne to Everyone: https://cpaor-audiofiles.com/wp-content/uploads/Rise/Ukrainian%20Helping%20Children/index.html?fbclid=IwAR1zPXN96IjWyW256nTvzAaVNC9d57qxf33MPzzvN1KUJ5hvmuQZs3AuyTE#/ https://cpaor-audiofiles.com/wp-content/uploads/Rise/Ukraine/index.html?fbclid=IwAR1L83zlbYyCSqr3SQZtQndK7_orP09z32B46312XLXPYFsK8VohbxZgJXs#/ https://cpaor-audiofiles.com/wp-content/uploads/Rise/HelpingChidren/index.html?fbclid=IwAR3fywHnxkAr9jH4hp6f4ix5btlxyDQ-93cf9hs-Mo0FIbG3ZSy-A4rKLPU#/ 16:58:50 From ACAMH Marketing Team to Everyone: The recording of this event will be available later this evening on the ACAMH website at https://www.acamh.org/freeview/military-conflict-and-its-impact-on-children-recording/ 16:58:59 From Hannah to Hosts and panelists: Please feel free to pass this on to schools and sponsors of children you may work with: https://www.edpsych4kids.com/supporting-the-mental-health-needs-of-child-refugees-in-the-uk/ 16:59:06 From Emina to Everyone: The school example is great to allow interaction and support. When I came as a child refugee from Bosnia in the early 90's, school support wasn't there unfortunately and I was often alone in libraries with nobody interacting with me because I couldn't speak English. It's so important to involve children in activities, despite the language barriers to make the social connections 17:00:59 From Dennis to Everyone: More video resources in Ukrainian and in English could be found here https://youtube.com/user/dougrin1411 17:01:29 From Jan to Everyone: Jan here from children's charity Coram Life Education. We have a free schools' resource to help improve the experiences of migrant and refugee children in school. It's our BELONGING TOOLKIT and on our website: https://www.coramlifeeducation.org.uk/belonging 17:01:30 From Daniela to Hosts and panelists: Kindergartens as important as well… https://www.researchgate.net/publication/338885262_Pre-Post_Study_to_Assess_EMDR-Based_Group_Therapy_for_Traumatized_Refugee_Preschoolers 17:04:39 From Chris to Everyone: https://orhi.uk/ 17:06:51 From Jan to Everyone: Just in case anyone missed this earlier, very relevant to Mina's excellent guidance: children's charity Coram Life Education have a free toolkit for schools - our BELONGING toolkit, created to improve the experiences of children from migrant and refugee backgrounds. PSHE Association accredited - link to this is here: https://www.coramlifeeducation.org.uk/belonging 17:11:29 From Jill to Hosts and panelists: The children in our Ukrainian family arrived on Saturday and started school today aged 7 and 5 and 3 year old at nursery . They were all fine - went in school uniform provided or bought by other parents . Their own wanted them to start ‘ normal life ‘ ASAP . The local community have provided clothes and toys . The children seemed to settle immediately and make themselves at home . However I recognise we may be in a honeymoon’ period … 17:13:34 From Hannah to Hosts and panelists: Please join my Facebook group. I’m helping Ukrainian families with a member who has SEND to find a sponsor. Please share with anyone you know who can help. Please feel free to post in the group with any relevant services and resources. https://www.facebook.com/groups/503015414833393/?ref=sharehttps://www.facebook.com/groups/503015414833393/?ref=share&exp=dc78 17:13:51 From Lynne to Everyone: might be useful: https://interagencystandingcommittee.org/iasc-reference-group-mental-health-and-psychosocial-support-emergency-settings/mental-health-and-psychosocial-support-humanitarian-response-ukraine-and-neighbouring-countries-0 17:18:01 From Gill to Hosts and panelists: Useful list of practical resources gathered here https://www.hycscounselling.co.uk/professionals-organisations/ 17:18:21 From Sarah to Everyone: Is there any more recent evidence about the utility of beta blockers immediately after a traumatic experience? 17:19:21 From Clare to Everyone: Is havening effective for trauma processing and would you recommend this as an intervention? 17:19:27 From Paula to Hosts and panelists: With our NHS system already in overload and our crisis services with a three hour wait and the CAMHS regionally with at least an 18month diagnosis and assessment criteria how will this all be achieved please? 17:19:29 From Christel to Everyone: I also believe I once read about beneficial use of games such as tetris immediately after experiencing trauma to occupy working memory and help reduce likelihood of developing PTSD 17:19:40 From Alma to Everyone: Thank you. We are having an issue with Russian children feeling confused, diminished, and branded 'the baddies' 17:19:50 From Emily to Everyone: Yes, I read that paper too Christel 17:21:05 From Petra to Everyone: Christel, that sounds like beneficial as it makes the brain work left to right to left and so forth, as well as the body (or at least the fingers), which is proven beneficial to deal with trauma. 17:21:24 From Paula to Hosts and panelists: As a private therapist I am being approached by people who are British abandoning the NHS waiting lists so I feel worried about if Ukrainian children may also have to wait 18 months before being seen? 17:21:37 From Paula to Hosts and panelists: Surely this would lead to more complex PTSD? 17:21:44 From Perveen to Hosts and panelists: that is so important to acknowledge that many Russians disagree with this war. Thank you Mina! 17:21:56 From Arefeh to Everyone: what should British and English children do about all the wars UK has been involved in? 17:21:58 From Paul to Hosts and panelists: At my university, it has been great to see the mutual support between the Ukrainian and Russian student societies 17:23:01 From Sarah to Everyone: there is some evidence for the 'butterfly hug': http://www.crowe-associates.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/THE-BUTTERFLY-HUG-PROTOCOL.pdf 17:23:15 From Gwen to Hosts and panelists: Any suggestions for how to support children who have always lived here, who have family members who have travelled to Ukraine? 17:23:49 From Dawn to Everyone: Parent Carer Networks collaborate across the country so they can be a good source of support for the belonging and community settling and they have wide links to support them 17:23:56 From Elizabeth to Hosts and panelists: Schools of sanctuary under City of Sanctuary share lots of resources on supporting schools to better support child refugees, their parents and those supporting them. There are sanctuary schools all over the country. 17:24:31 From Marian to Everyone: Expressive therapies like play therapy and art therapy may be very effective in helping children and adolescent express their feelings and emotions. This can be done in group settings or one to one. Cathy Malchiodi has written extensively about this. 17:24:36 From Paul to Hosts and panelists: Emily Holmes https://katalog.uu.se/profile/?id=N18-2401 17:24:51 From Paula to Hosts and panelists: My contractor North East Wellbeing do curious beasts where they get the children to organise and recognise their emotions through theatre fantasy animals https://www.northeastwellbeing.co.uk/curious-beasts/ 17:25:07 From Charlotte to Everyone: The problem with computer games is that you are focusing on a small screen. Peripheral vision is REALLY important in trauma as it closes down so think about games and activities that build peripheral vision skills e.g. juggling 17:25:10 From Oleh to Everyone: Thank you from Ukraine for standing with us and for providing support and care to Ukrainian children in UK! 17:26:28 From Ms V to Hosts and panelists: This book by dramatheraist Penny MacFarlane is a peer mentoring programme. https://www.routledge.com/Dramatherapy-Raising-Childrens-Self-Esteem-and-Developing-Emotional-Stability/McFarlane/p/book/9781843122654